What I didn’t say was that I am spending Saturday to practice on one bag (your suggestion earlier). It was also suggested that I try a wet towel to approximate the meat itself. If all goes well, then it will be “bag city” on Saturday. I was just giving myself some time to work out the kinks. Thanks for the suggestion, re: Saturday. Also the rolling down of the bag first is a very good suggestion and of course I will use. I view all suggestions from the experts as being most valuable – the purpose of this forum. And so far, this forum is all that I have expected it to be. And I know that you want this to work, so please keep ’em coming.