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May 23, 2012 at 1:59 am #1406Ron PrattMember
I’m sincere…I’d like some advice about the sous vide cooker you chose. Even though I’m a moderator here I have no access to email addresses so once you reply then I will briefly and candidly give you my email address, but then edit my addy out. OK?
RonMay 24, 2012 at 3:51 am #6117
OK by me. I’ll be up for about an hour. We can do this tomorrow if you prefer.May 24, 2012 at 4:37 am #6119
In case this is any help:
For the home front, it seems there are three players in the running:
1. (simplest) is the Sous Vide Supreme unit from sousvidesupreme.com
2. (cheapest, what I have) is getting a large rice cooker from anywhere, and Sous Vide Magic controller from freshmealssolutions.com
3. (precisest) would probably be the circulating unit from polyscience.com
A 4th, aquachef, is — I don’t know anything about it. But for about $160 total, it seems to be worth investigating.
There are probably other players out there. These are the ones I know about.
I’ve got six controllers (not all working at the moment, have to replace some electronic parts) two very large rice cookers (GREAT), an 18 qt Necco roaster, and a 6-qt electric fryer. I do not recommend the Necco roaster, because the thermal reaction is sluggish. I have an aquarium air pump to force-circulate the water, but I’ve found that it doesn’t help, so I’ve stopped using it.
For steak, I think a person can succeed with a zip-type bag and even a moderate amount of thought. I didn’t know it at the time, but they call this the “archimedes method” — fill your sink with water, push your in-bag beef into the water, then seal the bag so as to reduce the amount of air in the bag.
The point of this is that thermal transfer will be better with less air in the bag. Sure. But don’t go overboard on fussiness. Just get your meat (through the bag) in contact with the hot water.
For roasts (and this is where the sous vide method shines) you might need a better vacuum. I don’t know, because I’ve got the Vacmaster so I’ve never used a lesser vacuum as an experiment.
Roasts go 24-48 hours in the waterbath, then sear (or blowtorch) and serve. I always work hard to get a good seal, whether I’m working with the Sinbo or the Vacmaster chamber sealer. Two days in, you don’t want to be greeted by water seepage into your bag.
For steak, my plan is to start with a good sub-primal, then to get a good seal – using either machine – in a Drybag and then to age it 30 days. And then to steak it out and – wow – enjoy it.
Drybag is the way to go.May 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm #6120Ron PrattMember
Thanks for the tutorial! Let me read this and digest it which may be a day or two as the weather is ideal for a Spring power washer project and I’ll be quite busy.
RonMay 27, 2012 at 8:05 pm #6126BarryMember
We bought the Sous Vide Supreme after Toasty’s rave reviews of the process. We are enjoying the unit. It’s another form of slow cooker but it can hold flavor in.
We are hooked!May 27, 2012 at 8:10 pm #6127
Getting steak done perfectly is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I don’t mind that one bit!
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